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@feonixrift I used to feel similarly but

1) That's a lot more work to every of these interactions.
2) Depending on who you are, the amount of these interactions you would need to have each day can be wildly impossible to actually do. Making them more time consuming just means I'll do it less often.

3) This is a logical test you've set up to determine a thing. If there's one thing folk love to do, it's bandy about meaningless rhetoric to pass logical tests. Considering that is part of the problem being attacked, allowing more space for it seemed counterproductive.

4) You fall into my tomatoes accidentally, or kick them intentionally: I'm not sure. If it was intentional, what is the point of me explaining to you how to avoid doing it accidentally? If it's accidental, because you tripped on a stone, it really doesn't matter... whether you tripped on the stone because you were bringing me mail, or just walking by, or whatever. the stone is what matters.

So, summing back up in reverse order: what led you to express kyriarchism doesn't matter nearly as much as the kyriarchism, putting the conversation about what led to it first means it's unlikely there will be time or energy for the conversation about the held kyriarchism, and it means that instead of explaining akyriarchistic lifeways I'm pointing out rhetorical faux pas.

All for the benefit of "politeness," and... helping kyriarchists refine their thinking, which clearly allows them to get away with some awful shit already?? I really don't see why I'd do that! Not when saying "no don't do that or I won't talk to you" is an option.

I think you confused two things: I'm not having this conversation primarily to educate y'all.

I'm having it so I can maintain my boundaries without having to simply... stop talking to y'all. I have to do this so we can talk about delicious meals and stuff. That it educates y'all is just a side-effect, and one I'm not that interested in: to date, I have only seen that hurt me @woozle @starkatt


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Actually, I think I wrote this all backward:

I'm not saying all this for your education but because my beliefs require I maintain these lines.

Seeing this maintenance work and viewing an act of education is something you're doing as a listener, not something I am doing as a communicator.

Thus, advocating I change how I communicate based on that perception of this as primarily education, not an attempt at just basic communication, is way off base. You wouldn't write to the editors of Twilight to complain it did a bad job explaining the watersheds of the pacific northwest, right?

Even ignoring that misconstruction of my communication: I disagree that it'd be better to communicate differently, for the reasons i led with. @woozle @starkatt

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